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It's Me
02-23-2004, 11:07 PM
Am I right, the only sites available to promote are the reality sites and the "For mature adudiences" ?
Becky
02-23-2004, 11:10 PM
You can only promote the ARS 4 Real sites. FMAO is not available for direct promotion yet. It should be available on 3/8.
It's Me
02-23-2004, 11:15 PM
Wow, I've got to say I'm very disapointed. I don't see anything that is going to benifit me in any way. From a ton of sites in every nich to just a few reality sites, thats a surpise for sure.
Becky
02-23-2004, 11:18 PM
There is more coming than just the 4 Real sites. FMAO will be available for direct promotion (on a per click payout) on 3/8. ARS CHAMP System (http://www.arschamps.com) will be available for promotion around 4/1. This site will have more niche coverage as well.
It's Me
02-23-2004, 11:25 PM
Yes, the Champ sites may be worth promoting, I'll definatly give them a shot.
vidsweb
02-23-2004, 11:26 PM
The extreme pay cut is the most dissapointing
hotchixs
02-23-2004, 11:27 PM
Ok Becky but what everybody wants to know is when are GIM sites going to go off air? I see that the linking code section is already gone. How long do we have to change all our links?
Becky
02-23-2004, 11:30 PM
GIM linking codes will be redirected on 3/8, 2 weeks from today. At that time, ARS 4 Real sites and FMAO will be the options you have to choose from to send your traffic to. Remember, FMAO will pay 70% of every click and all links on the page will pay you.
hotchixs
02-23-2004, 11:32 PM
Never mind I see they are going to be gone as of the 8th.
hotchixs
02-23-2004, 11:34 PM
Remember, FMAO will pay 70% of every click and all links on the page will pay you.

I'm not sure I understand how this program works. 70% of every click? what does that mean. How much is a click worth. And then why do all the links on the page have my refferal code?
basschick
02-23-2004, 11:34 PM
no shemale sites or hairy sites or granny sites - how will you effectively redirect these extremely tight niches so the surfers have any interest in where they are sent?
Becky
02-23-2004, 11:39 PM
FMAO will take care of that. FMAO is a pay per click search engine where there will be listings in just about any legal niche you can think of. When I say you will be credited for every link I mean that every link out to another page will carry your referral code with it and pay you 70% of the click value. Since the results are bidded on a per click basis, one link might be worth 10 cents, another 8 cents, etc. You will get paid 70% of the 10 cents, 70% of the 8 cents, etc.
hotchixs
02-23-2004, 11:39 PM
Is it possible to get content to promote these new sites? As well, I see there is a trial period on the join pages. Will this be staying that way or going? One more question, so who's linking code is on the ad, the person who paid the 10 cents for the click?
Becky
02-23-2004, 11:43 PM
The trial on the 4 Real sites will be staying.

Your linking code for the traffic you send TO FMAO will be carried on all the links so you get paid for the traffic you send in.
Becky
02-23-2004, 11:43 PM
The trial on the 4 Real sites will be staying.

Your linking code for the traffic you send TO FMAO will be carried on all the links so you get paid for the traffic you send in.
hotchixs
02-23-2004, 11:44 PM
What about the content Becky. Are you going to provide it or is there somewhere we can buy it. Doesn't make sense to use content that will not be in the members area of a reality site.
hotchixs
02-23-2004, 11:45 PM
What about the content Becky. Are you going to provide it or is there somewhere we can buy it. Doesn't make sense to use content that will not be in the members area of a reality site.
Becky
02-23-2004, 11:45 PM
The trial on the 4 Real sites will be staying.

Your linking code for the traffic you send TO FMAO will be carried on all the links so you get paid for the traffic you send in.
LadyB
02-23-2004, 11:45 PM
Becky - Does ARS plan to release any new sites shortly? I'm hoping these were only the ones that were ready in time for release?

My only complaints about the new tours is..
1. They load SUPER SLOW on my crappy dialup connection. :(
2. The url branding on the tours and promo. :?
Becky
02-23-2004, 11:46 PM
The trial on the 4 Real sites will be staying.

Your linking code for the traffic you send TO FMAO will be carried on all the links so you get paid for the traffic you send in.
LadyB
02-23-2004, 11:46 PM
Becky - Does ARS plan to release any new sites shortly? I'm hoping these were only the ones that were ready in time for release?

My only complaints about the new tours is..
1. They load SUPER SLOW on my crappy dialup connection. :(
2. The url branding on the tours and promo. :?
APD
02-23-2004, 11:59 PM
What about the content Becky. Are you going to provide it or is there somewhere we can buy it. Doesn't make sense to use content that will not be in the members area of a reality site.

Go to the Promo section in ARS 4 Real

There are pictures, movie clips and video trailers for each episode on each site!

Over a gig of promo per site!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marc De
02-24-2004, 12:39 AM
LadyB - we will be adding more stuff as time goes on. ARS RI will host many great product like HSN and soon some nice video tour sites for some niches the reality didn't hit.

Also guys, once FMAO is launched that will be a GREAT product to monetize your traffic. Think outside the box for a couple minutes and realize the potential of sending your traffic into a competitive bidding pay per click model. The possibilities are ENDLESS...
paulhem
02-24-2004, 12:46 AM
Ok Marc.....

I sent 20,000 hits between ARS/ADS last period,......not much compared to some.

In near future all will have to go to FMAO ppc.....as i dont like that gay reality site at all and am pretty sure most surfers wont....no disrespect to whoever made it but it looks very old hat.

So i need to sell my 20,000 hits to somebody in ppc se or simply get paid per click through??

Somebody bids for my traffic?

Please try to help us here with a few more details.......remember a lot of us are part time wms and never dealt with PPC engines


many thanks
CarrieB
02-24-2004, 01:33 AM
Okay. I am super confused.
So all of those niched sites are gone, and we are left with 10 reality sites and a frontend for SearchBoXXX.

The new BYOT program is actually an AVS program with all content owned by and hosted by you (or exclusive licensed to you).

I have no idea what the webmaster referral PPC stuff is... do we get paid so much per webmaster click or if a webmaster signs up under us we get paid so much per his surfer's clicks?

Instead of one central site to go to for our linking codes (adrevservice.com) we now have adrevservice.com for products, ars4real.com for sites, arschamps.com for the BYOT stuff, and arsri.com for message boards?

Someone please help me out here, because I am hopelessly lost.

And as an advertiser, how do I bid to get my site listed in SearchBoXXX? Err... excuse me... FMAO?
Marc De
02-24-2004, 02:41 AM
CarrieB - FMAO is only being back filled while we get the REAL FMAO up and running which will be live in 2 weeks. At that time you will be able to buy traffic from us. :)

WM Ref Program - you get paid per impression AND $0.50 for every click a WM makes to your advertisement.

ARSRI.com is now the 'central' site broken into the different programs that you will use. Some will use 1, some will use all. Each site very simple and very easy to navigate and get what you want! All linked together with the ARSRI.com nav bar at the top :)
lister
02-24-2004, 04:01 AM
Hi all

So far i have kept my big mouth shut. Paulhem i with you 100% .

Not very happy with the changes.

1- 10 sites that dont cover most of a lot of WM's niche including me

2- CHAMP or whatever will cover lots of other niche, whoopi do , big fucking deal, poor little WM like myself who have a hard time promoting a site at 2.99 do you seriously think that we will be able to promote one at 29.99??? get serious. Yes i will put up some links to my hub site but no way in hell that i will promote it on galleries and in any other way.

anyway really hope that ARS will rethink of a lot of thing cause i think the new ARS smell like CACA!

I always promote ARS only since 2 years, great peoples and service, but c'mon those new change was made only for top selling wm's so i can take a hint to see when the smaller wm's not welcome no more, and please dont try to explain that the new change are great and will make us more money, tell that to the top WM's not me.

Time to make my luguage and check the brochure for a new sponsor vacation.

asta la tourista bebe!!
Horny Guy
02-24-2004, 04:23 AM
I spent 3 years setting up targeted niche traffic to now send it to these now non targeted sites ...its a huge waste of my time and hard earned traffic.
:blast:
Cyphix
02-24-2004, 05:14 AM
Ummm.... only reality sites to promote? Are we just forgetting about everything else? Black girls, big tits, teens, feet, legs, hairy pussy etc etc...

Oh I hear you saying BYOT 2 will cover this.... firstly, BYOT 2 doesn't launch until awhile yet & now we have NO niche sites to promote? Nice one ARS :roll:

You're basically saying.. if you want to promote niched based sites, until BYOT 2 comes along go & promote some other sponsors cause we don't want your niche based traffic.... we just deal in reality sites now!

Oh & while your at it... if you don't promote a lot of reality sites or you're not real good at selling them then since we only offer reality sites we'll be taking all your reward points off you if you don't make a sale to our reality sites. :roll:

Things just keep looking better & better!
chilihost
02-24-2004, 05:27 AM
Paulhem, send some of that gay traffic our way! I promise you that we will always remain focused on gay sites, we have 9 for you to chose from now and have more in the plans too. If your gay traffic is worth more than just a couple of pennies per click then send it to a program that will pay you what it is worth!


cheers!

Luke
Saint
02-24-2004, 08:23 AM
I am lost, seriously. What I'm understanding is, for instance, all my links to All Petite will redirect to FMAO where I will be paid per click??? I'm selling memberships and I'll be paid per click instead???
chilihost
02-24-2004, 06:52 PM
I am lost, seriously. What I'm understanding is, for instance, all my links to All Petite will redirect to FMAO where I will be paid per click??? I'm selling memberships and I'll be paid per click instead???

That is exactly how I read it too...so you get a couple of pennies for your traffic...woohoo :oggle:


cheers,

Luke
GatorB
02-24-2004, 06:57 PM
I am lost, seriously. What I'm understanding is, for instance, all my links to All Petite will redirect to FMAO where I will be paid per click??? I'm selling memberships and I'll be paid per click instead???

Well ARS is ending it's association with GIM who owns the sites. What is ARS supposed to do? would you rather your link keep going to All Petite and make GIM money and not get paid ANYTHING?
Marc De
02-24-2004, 07:09 PM
Better yet GatorB - how about we just take the traffic and send it to another sponsor program where I get all the money? Oh that sucks too? I think our plan is VERY good and we're executing it wonderfully... Its going to ruffle some feathers but we knew that and we don't really have any choice :(

Every time we made decisions we ALWAYS had our webmasters in mind! That is a fact...